And that's exactly what he is trying to do in the new special airing on Oxygen on Sunday, which will pick up where is podcast left off in August 2017, with Payne heading back to Ocilla to uncover new information and continue his investigation. At the same time, it was heartbreaking because we knew for sure that Tara wasnt coming home. [11] Lindsey's grandmother lived in Tifton, Georgia, near Ocilla, where Grinstead had gone missing. Were putting together a documentary series based on the story and Up and Vanished, he begins with a deep breath that tells me theres a lot of information coming my way. At first local authoritiestreatedReisinger's disappearance as a missing person case, told she had previously gone on a two-week walkabout that put her out of touch. I would hazard a guess that theyd be willing to wait a little longer if thats what it takes to get it. Entertainment Television, LLC A Division of NBCUniversal. During his court hearing on Feb. 23,Ryan was officiallycharged with burglary, aggravated assault, murder, and concealing a death. Within a 12-month period the podcast received over 50 million downloads,[13] which propelled Grinstead's case into the mainstream[14] media. Ervin told Lindsey recently, "She always,always had a good heart, regardless of her present situation. Season 2 of 'Up & Vanished' airs Feb. 15 at 7 p.m. Throughout our conversation, hes maintained a respectful stoicism that slips away now that we've gravitated to a new topic. The disappearance of Tarain 2005 rocked the small town of Ocilla, which has a population just over 3,000 people. Such records are preserved by the agencies responsible for the arrests. Throughout his investigation, Payne met what I assume would be the entire population of Ocilla and made plenty of new friends. [11] Lindsey began podcasting full time once Up and Vanished increased in popularity. Until I get off the phone. It wasnt the first time that a local woman told McDonald shed been assaulted by a group of unidentified men. After performing over 300 shows on Broadway Keean moved . That question is the reason why, when Payne was researching cases to feature on his new podcast, Taras was the one he was most drawn to. In 2016, Kristal Anne Reisinger moved to the tiny Colorado town of Crestone seeking spiritual enlightenment. A second season of Up and Vanished, covering a completely different true crime story, will debut on August 20, 2018. So the question was: Who the hell was Ryan Duke? Romper recently spoke to Payne Lindsey, who spoke briefly about how the investigation into Kristal Anne Reisinger's disappearance isn't quite over. So whats next? Why would I hurt the girl? he said. There was always the small chance that she had left on her own, was living somewhere and was happy. Dr. Godwin also offered one critical piece of advice: "If you go to Ocilla, take somebody else with you nowit's a weird place.". Maybe between Payne's divorce and new Oxygen stardom, there was no room for other wanna be stars in the Tenderfoot limelight. After a resounding outcry from residents and true crime enthusiasts following the case, the judge amended the gag order to apply to only law enforcement, the suspects, and a select few individuals. Could they be talking about Payne. TheGeorgia Bureau of Investigation(GBI) was soon brought in after it was clear something was definitely wrong. "Please know that you have had an impact, a significant role in this investigation and I am confident that today we have reached the point where we are in this investigation because of that involvement. "Let me spell it out for you hypothetically. He also had several private conversations with other people on the message boards, where he would answer their questions. According to Investigation Discovery, she met Elijah Guana in 2011, and the two quickly fell in love. Two weeks later, Kristal Reisinger was reported missing. The True Crime File is perfect for those just beginning to explore the thrilling vagaries of true crime and also provides a new lens for fans who have been delving into the subject for years. The community was hurting for a long time, and they were relieved to get some answers.. We are fortunate to have a lot of extremely talented, intelligent experts whos skills and knowledge help make Up and Vanished possible. Almost immediately, Taras case went cold, flash-frozen and suspended in permafrost. [20][21] As of January 2020, Oxygen and Tenderfoot TV are working to develop a television special about Kristal Reisinger which will be produced by Lindsey. Both arent my favorite podcast but I dont mind them. But, that doesn't mean one isn't creeping up on the horizon. A few days later, however, she vanished. Nearly 40 years ago, 25 children disappeared over three years. As for Up and Vanished, Lindsey and his team decided it was time to take a break and let some of the dust they kicked up settle . Crestone had become known as the New Age Religious capital of the world, a hub for enthusiasts like Reisinger. Over 3 years two newly ordained curates in a row had locks put on their doors, reported Xxxxxx use of rent to Keenan and he moved them both. Kasha's father, Elijah Guana, toldProblem Solversthat his ex was "really into Native American traditions, the nature of raising consciences and living a peaceful life. Peloquin said that Kristal Reisinger told him on June 28 she was drugged and raped at Keenans house and that she recognized only two of the many men involved. Then with the gag order, the answers just stopped coming.. In a 2017 interview with Entertainment Weekly, Payne laid out his lingering questions in Tara's case and Ryan and Bo's roles in her murder: "Are the charges that are laid against them the right charges? View the profiles of people named John Keenan. This documentary attempts to separate fact from conspiracy theories to get to the truth. Soon, Reisingers good friend Rodney Ervin and ex-boyfriend Guana arrived in Crestone to search for her. She left everything she owns behind.". Over the course of the next few months, episodes dissected key pieces of evidence and looked into possible suspects (including Tara's ex-boyfriend, a former student who claimed to have an intimate relationship with her that she once called the cops on, a married man she was allegedly having an affair with, a man she went on a few dates with before her disappearance, etc.). From what I could tell, after the case went cold, people just kind of stopped discussing it. Well also be recording a live episode so be sure to be there.. Just an older wiser fool, seeing how you are doing. Still, there had been false leads in the past. The same source claimed he was also on suicide watch again after his 2017 arrest. . Home schooled for most of his life with his younger brother Cade, he balances much of his time between his passions for dance, music, acting, and photography. They talked about Payne, they talked about the podcast, but most importantly, they began talking about Taras disappearance again. ", Aside from landing the interview with Brooke, Payne also unleashed a major bit of news about the original investigation over 12 years ago: They had searched the pecan orchard a few weeks after Tara went missing, based on a tip that Ryan and/or Bo had told someone at a party one night that they had killed Tara and disposed of the body. "For her to be gone this long is unusual, so that heightens the chances of foul play being involved. I do wonder what happened btwn those 2. "I'll go to my grave believing that somebody had something to do with her disappearance," Ervin added. His response is characteristically well-considered. During season one's year-long journey, Payne, self-described "millennial podcaster,", played a major part in the arrest of Ryan Alexander Duke and Bo Dukes, those two men charged with the murder. Save a 48 Hours Mystery special that aired on CBS in 2008 and a possible lead in 2009 that turned out to be a hoax, not a lot of progress was made in Tara's case, and she was declared dead in absentia iby the court in 2010. "I found that, for the most part, I don't get anywhere when it comes to talking to Catfish," Lindsey explained quite honestly during our call. [15] This helped uncover previously unnoticed evidence which lead to the decade-old case being cracked and two arrests made. Im not one to take no for an answer if I can help it, he says with conviction. If theyre worried about speculation or rumors, the gag order only perpetuates that, Payne explains, a little frustrated. Then I became one of hundreds. Lindsey first gained notoriety in 2016, as a first-time podcaster, when he created Up and Vanished, which tracked his investigation into the 2005 disappearance of Tara Grinstead, a high-school. It makes it harder to be able to track every step that she took during that time.. Lindsey is from Georgia and resides in Atlanta. [4][31] In September 2016, Lindsey married Cassie House. With piercing blue eyes and endless curiosity, she fit right in. "Kristal had a hard time in her life, being from a broken family," said Rodney Ervin, whose son knew Kristal and who opened his home to the girl when she was about 15 and not getting along with her own mother. He interviewed an old high school friend, who said, "He was a good friend. "Someone who went to the drum circle ceremony knows what happened that nightthat there are people in Crestone who have information which can crack open this case,"Saguache County Sheriff's deputy Wayne Clark also said in 2017. Payne Lindsey: If the searched happened back in 2005, then according to the statute of limitations on the crime both committed, he may be able to get off Scott free. 9 Iconic True Crime Books to Read Before You Die, TV's Most Killer True Crime Transformations. for the murder of Tara Grinstead. Are you OK? She said, I dont really want to talk about it, but I went to a party and Im pretty sure that I was drugged and raped.'. Under the (very weird) circumstances, it felt impossible that nobody in this tiny town knew what happened for over a decade. Somebody in this town knows and they're too much of a coward to come forward.". Forgive me though, its been a while since Ive listened to UAV so I might be forgetting something he did. He was a really nice guyhe was a good guyyou never expect it. After all, Reisinger was no stranger to going off the grid she had once left on a two-week walk-about without contacting anyone. (Remember when the policesaid Ryan was never on their radar during the press conference?). She didnt just take off and not come back. So I stumbled through a question that, according to the audio, went something like this: I was impressed with the uh. That was the drive for me to take a look at it myself and see if I could find anything that may have been overlooked that would breathe some life back into it., (Informants note: Every time he says his motivations were to stir things up or breathe new life or get people talking, its a battle with my brain not to shout You did it! and throw confetti in the air.). "Other times it seems like he's really confused himself. This theory received a boost from a bombshell discovery Payne ended episode 15 with: a Facebook message Duke sent to one of his other former teachers in 2015. She left everything she owns behind.. Duke.". For her to be gone this long is unusual, so that heightens the chances of foul play being involved. She had a strained relationship with her family and became a ward of the state at the age of 15. "They were pretty much a package duo," an old friend of Ryan's told Lindsey in episode 14. Lindsey told me that when Catfish "reaches out," he'll "engage" if he's free to chat for a few minutes. I remember in UAV he seemed a little arrogant, like when he implied that the murder was solved because of him . "I think there's something about an unsolved case that intrigues everyone, this urge to solve the puzzle and reveal the truth," he said. The creator of successful true crime podcasts like Up and . Thanks, you're on the list! Sheriff's sources and McDonald said that the last person who called Reisinger was a local man with a criminal history that included drugging and assaulting someone. Payne Lindsey, the Atlanta documentarian best known for his popular "Up and Vanished" and "Atlanta Monster" true-crime podcasts, teamed up with Jake Brennan, a Boston musician with a popular. This was a couple of months ago, and doesn't seem to have any connection to Kristal's disappearance unfortunately. Four decades later, we still dont know the whole story, but we aim to find out. Payne Lindsey decided to make a podcast from the coldest case he could find - and now two arrests have finally been made in a 12-year-old murder. Shortly after his twelfth episode, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation arrested a man named Ryan Alexander Duke The day before the arrest, it seemed like I was the only person reporting on or looking into the case. I tried digging in deeper to understand why but I couldn't find a clear answer. Last minute gifts for any true crime fan (NO SHIPPING NECESSARY! "This is someone with a tremendous, magnetic personality, and the kids just love her.". At the time, he hoped to develop Taras story into his own documentary film project. I didnt think it was impossible, but I thought it was unrealistic. Were sorting through hundreds of emails people have sent us with suggestions and, unfortunately, theres no shortage. and Oxygen are both part of the NBCUniversal Family.). "You guys have just been phenomenal in this whole endeavor," agent T.J. Ricketson said to the media in the packed courthouse. Maybe it will, maybe it wont., (Informants note: I pressed him for details on his shortlist of cases, so he compromised and divulged two names. But back to that anonymous tipster that contacted the GBI, eventually leading them to arrestRyan. Accomplished. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Kristal had made a decision to do something about it. I cant say what they are, but I can say you should make it a priority to tune into season two of Up and [7] A second season of Up and Vanished covered the disappearance of Kristal Reisinger. Reviewing old leads and uncovering new ones, Up and Vanished quickly expanded from a planned six-episode season to a final count of 24 episodes with numerous bonus episodes. "As we get new information and get closer to the definitive answers, it will allow us time for law enforcement to investigate it some more, and for us to do a solid follow-up in the near future," Lindsey shared, though he confirmed no specific plans had been set into motion for a potential follow up just yet. It is widely assumed that . Lindsey realized that he "could produce a podcast at home in my boxers," and created Up and Vanished. Which is kind of cool because Ive never really broken it down to explain it, so Im learning right along with the audience. I thought that maybe in doing that, some truth would emerge. After learning about Kristal Reisinger, read about Lauren Dumolo, the young mother who went missing from her Florida neighborhood. *Since our interview, Ryan Alexander Duke has issued a plea of not guilty She told me people had drugged and raped her.. Introducing "High Strange" with Payne Lindsey. It didnt deter me from trying any harder.. This party was a full week after Reisingers last confirmed phone call with her loved ones, and the timing still has police baffled. Sheriff Warwick searched more than 60 Crestone mine shafts for Kristal Reisingers body. Butas the months went by, and her 4-year-old daughter, Kasha, back in Denver continued to go without even a phone call from her mom, officialsincluding agents from the Colorado Bureau of Investigationcame to the conclusion thatReisinger was likely more than missing. Gotta admit, thought you were sexy," he wrote. I tried digging in deeper to understand why but I couldnt find a clear answer. [22], In early 2018, in partnership with HowStuffWorks,[25] Lindsey launched Atlanta Monster, a new podcast about the infamous Atlanta Child Murders, which occurred between 1979 - 1981 with over 25 victims murdered in Atlanta. But the truth has proved elusive to this day. But Payne's investigation probably wouldn't even have started if private investigator Dr.Maurice Godwin hadn't seen Payne's Websleuth posting and contacted him, revealing he had been working on the case since 2006 and was willing to share everything he had on what was the "largest case file in Georgia history" after he was hired by Anita, Tara's sister, five months after she went missing. "But I hope the renewed interest in the podcast at least helped create an environment that encouraged the sharing of truth throughout the whole community.". Andliterallt laid out his narrative of the crime. .). Throughout his investigation into the 2016 disappearance of Kristal Reisinger, " Up and Vanished " podcast host Payne Lindsey kept coming across one name John Keenan, a man who goes by the moniker "Catfish John." Our favorite part? Im also conducting a seminar of sorts By this point, the threadbare veil of professionalism that I manage to maintain most some of the time had melted away. The file is the largest in GBI history, which means that the discovery process of copying, compiling, reviewing, and interpreting everything in it could take months or even years. But the highlight of his stint on the discussion board had to be this. The first promising lead for Kristal Reisinger came from locals who claimed to have seen her on the outskirts of town after a full moon drum circle on July 18, but the sighting was ultimately never confirmed. Facebook gives people the power. [30], In fall 2019, Payne Lindsey announced and released the first episode of a new podcast that features true stories with a fictional backdrop, Radio Rental. Reisinger said she would consider McDonalds advice to call the police. Were not going to count on the police to tell us that. Bo would admit to his part in it and take a plea, so he doesn't serve any time, and then they would have the reward money.". [She was] really into Native American traditions (and) the nature of raising consciences and living a peaceful life, Guana told Denvers FOX31 News. Authorities searched the area on foot with dogs andfrom the sky inhelicopters, but there was no sign of her. Then on February 23, 2017, the GBI held a press conference to announce they had arrested Ryan Alexander Duke, a former student at Irwin County High School, charging him with Tara's murder. Each Arkansas arrest record reveals an arrestee's identity and details about the incident leading up to an arrest. In my opinion, its having a negative effect on the town and the case. .investigating the case to, uh. When the news broke, it crushed that tiny little sliver of hope. For more information, please see our Up and Vanished is produced by Tenderfoot TV, a story-driven media company based at Industrious at Ponce City Market, in Atlanta, Georgia. There was also talk of the police looking for someone around the same age as Duke, someone who may have acted as an accomplice, a "white rabbit"Payne seemed on the verge of catching. They had basically confessed, telling several people over the years about what had happened, and no one did anything. Oh, and just before his arrest in 2017, he was spending time on theUp and Vanisheddiscussion boards, hosting Q&As under the name "AAA," and he continued to speak out online following his arrest when he posted bail (violating the court-ordered gag order. Speaking of the podcast, Im curious to know how Payne has evaluated the role it played in Taras case. So Ive listened to UAV, and Im currently listening to Atlanta Monster. When she left around 11 p.m., that would be the last time any of her family or friends would see her alive, with concerned co-workers calling the police on Monday, Oct. 24, when she failed to show up for work. We are grateful for their contributions and daily collaboration. So its difficult to tell whats next for the case. She even started singing with a local band called Stimulus. As it stands, only rumors remain and a $20,000 reward for information leading to the closing of the case. You wake up to them telling you they killed her for reasons unknown," he allegedly said. Payne Lindsey. [4] Lindsey asked Atlanta citizens to reach out and share the paranormal and scary stories to share on the podcast. Since Ive been sharing intel with you, my partners in crime, Ive spoken to some of the most recognizable figures in true crime, and it has been exceptionally cool. After helping his brother with his first case as much as possible, Lindsey transitioned into working as a producer, all while balancing classes for his bachelors degree in business. Now I believe the guy is smart, he's got standards, he knows how to build suspense and use narrative timing. From the Saguache County Sheriffs Office to podcaster Payne Lindsey, investigators have been trying to solve Reisingers disappearance for more than five years. Payne Lindsey is an American director, documentary filmmaker, Right Side of the Tree lead singer and podcast host. This was a couple of months ago, and doesn't seem to have any connection to Kristal's disappearance unfortunately. All rights reserved. A self-described clairvoyant, she had left her ex-boyfriend Elijah Guana and their four-year-old daughter Kasha in Denver to find enlightenment in the Crestone hills. . Or was he actually covering up his own murder, pinning it on his old buddy, who was living with him at the time? "Right after she disappeared, a couple weeks after she disappeared, there was a party and this kid was talking, eavesdrop, he was talking about having killed Tara and dropped her body in a pecan orchard in Fitzgerald.". Payne Lindsey is an American director, documentary filmmaker, Right Side of the Tree lead singer and podcast host. This information made it to my office, and our case Jason Shoudel was sent out to conduct an interview," Ricketson said during the press conference. Full-on sweaty palms, clumsy stammering, shrill pitch starstruck. Many people, I think, wanted just to leave it alone or thought it was futile.. [22] As of June 2019, the company had over 400 million total downloads for its podcasts. Are they more involved, less involved? [1] He is best known for co-creating and hosting the hit investigative journalist and true crime podcasts Up and Vanished and Atlanta Monster. Lindsey was immediately intrigued and posted on a forum about her case on a site called Websleuthsand even more intrigued when he received a voicemail soon after, officially kicking off his journey. Why? [7] Lindsey did not have access to police files, so instead scoured through old news articles and online forums to hunt out possible leads. View the profiles of people named Lindsey Keenan. But none would come. "Veggie burgers and almond milk. ), Your chance to meet Ryan Phillippe, Paul Holes, Chris Hansen & SO much more. The GBI will try to convict Ryan Duke and wrap this up as quickly as possible without a lot of media circus. But as with every case, the atmosphere was far from jubilant. It really just doesnt make any sense., Sheriff Warwick agreed that the circumstances were suspicious. With Robert Goldberg, John F. Kennedy, Robert Dallek, Lee Harvey Oswald. My mission is to bring you exclusive information from some of the most prominent investigators, authors, and podcasters. So we need to be persistent and make sure we get the whole story about what happened to Tara.. Payne Lindsey is an Atlanta-based director, award-winning documentary filmmaker, and the co-creator and host of the hit podcast Up and Vanished. Driven by a new found passion for both the true crime genre and investigative journalism, Lindsey decided to investigate the disappearance of beauty queen and school teacher Tara Grinstead, a notorious decade-old cold case from South Georgia. "The day before [she vanished], she had purchased a number of her favorite health food items," Ervintold Problem Solvers in 2017. She was a very smart, talented young lady that was in a situation that just didn't lend to having a stable life.". ", He didn't mention the podcast by name, but everyone knew it was what Ricketson was referring toeven if Ryan's name had never even been mentioned on Up and Vanished, but he was also never considered a suspect by the police. 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